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  2015-Watchtower Audit Checklist!

  by Atlantis in

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  2015, audit checklist.. .. click the green download button.. .. 2015 checklist for audit of file .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/aliira5.

  .. .. wtunderground!.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  This organization is headed south real fast.
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  WTS checklist for Elders to destroy evidence?

  by DarioKehl in

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  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3t1yp7/marc_and_cora_posted_on_utube/.

  hot off the presses from exjw reddit earlier today.

  massive leak in uk.. if true, this is big (and very, very disturbing)..

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  They are so stepping in shit trying to avoid legal problem and I'd say yes this letter will be used against them in lawsuits and may open them up for criminal charges.
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  No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!

  by John Aquila in

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  last night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.

  there was beer and later some music.

  everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.

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  God I wonder what the majority of would answer to this and other questions like it under the truth serums like i don't know, sodium thiopental or something.

  http://io9.com/5902559/what-truths-does-truth-serum-actually-reveal

  The famed chemical sodium pentothal, which is commonly known as truth serum, has been a mainstay of spy flicks for decades. In real life, scientists have tested it on spies, psychiatric patients, pregnant women, and suspected criminals. They all talked, but did they say something meaningful? Or was it just what the people around them wanted to hear?
  Like heroin, sodium pentothal is a brand name. The drug was manufactured and trademarked by Abbott Laboratories, and its free-for-all name is sodium thiopental. It's a barbiturate, a drug that acts on the central nervous system, which it depresses to calm anxiety, induce drowsiness, eliminate pain, and sometimes entirely knock someone out. That is not why it's become world famous. Sodium pentothal made its name in detective, spy, and pulp novels, where it was famously used as a 'truth serum.' Novelists weren't making it up. Psychiatrists and police officers both swore by it in the first half of the twentieth century - but which of its powers were fact and which were fiction is still debated.
  The Innocent Origin of Truth Serum
  The maddening thing about Truth Serum, and the damage its wrought over the years, is that its conceptual originator, Dr Robert House, meant it to exonerate prisoners. During his time in obstetric wards around 1915, he noticed the drug administered to women during childbirth, scopolamine, had a strange effect on his patients. They spoke automatically and unthinkingly, responding to any question. His mind went to prisoners who, under interrogation, maintained claims of innocence. That's easy enough to do when jail would be uppermost in their mind, but if a barbituate could make women forget that they were having a baby, it could certainly wipe ulterior motives from a person's mind. So if asked where they were the night before, if they answered automatically, 'at home,' then they couldn't have been out robbing a bank.The process by which sodium pentothal came to be used to obtain confessions of guilt was a circuitous one. The particular compound was invented in 1934 by Ernest H. Volwiler and Donalee L. Tabern, both of whom were trying to invent another pain killer. Although it did relax a patient, and enough of it knocked a person out, sodium pentothal didn't kill pain as much as they had hoped. It wasn't ideal for surgeons, but it came to be used by shrinks. Psychiatrists during the World Wars saw some soldiers with acute shell shock who either had great difficulty speaking or were unable to speak at all. Earlier barbiturates were used during therapy, but since it did not completely incapacitate a patient as much as they did, sodium pentothal was an ideal drug to be used in programs as an anti-anxiety drug which allowed the soldiers to speak and to eventually recover from their experience - provided addiction was kept at bay and their psychiatrist was conscientious. These programs, during which the drug was injected and the scientist asked questions, were surprisingly progressive, in that the drugs wore off and allowed the soldier to go back out into the community, instead of taking long stays in a psychiatric facility. The idea was to remove inhibitions, including fear of reprisal, and let the soldier talk, then let him recover and go back out, fully integrated into the community. It is still, at times, administered in the UK for the treatment of phobias.
  The Twisted Side of Truth
  These psychiatrists consulted at police stations, and it wasn't long before people began making the connection between removing a soldier's fear of past events and removing a criminal's fear of getting caught was made. Truth serum has had no real history in the courts. Courts generally haven't been kind to barbiturate confessions. They have however, recognized confessions when the fact that barbiturates had been administered to the suspect went quietly unmentioned. Throughout the first half of the twentieth century, scandals popped up when investigating officials found that police had administered such drugs to suspects. Even if the person never mentioned anything of substance while under the influence, they generally woke up with no memory of anything that happened. A signed confession waved in their face might induce an amnesic suspect to talk, or to incriminate themselves as the only way to save themselves from a harsh sentence.Spies at least tested out the benefits of sodium pentothal, sodium amytal, and even good old scopolamine, was tested by the CIA and other spy organizations. They used it on spies they captured, and on their own agents, hoping to catch a double agent in the ranks. Scopolamine was the most frequently used, because it not only wiped out memory during the session, but just previous to it as well, so a person wouldn't know the situation that led up to their memory loss. Just after September 11th, people began talking about administering it to suspected terrorists in custody.
  While police officers and spies were attempting to get confessions from criminals, psychiatrists attempted to convince their patients that they had been the victims of crimes. Sodium pentothal use had slowly mutated over the years. While under the influence, soldiers would relate extraordinary stories of their time in the war, and of the time before that. Many doctors were shocked at the abuse that some soldiers had suffered as children. Doctors began to ask about it, and even expect it, and since sodium pentothal left a patient confused and semi-coherent, it led to misunderstandings. One of the most famous of these was the infamousSybil multiple personality case, which sprung from a young woman under the influence of barbiturates telling her psychiatrists about a tonsillectomy that she had undergone as a child. The incident seemed like an assault to Cornelia Wilbur, her doctor. The doctor probed for more details, which were supplied by Sybil, and worked up a case history that changed psychiatry.
  But Does It Work?
  Well, it might. If someone is dead set against telling your their secrets it might make them so disoriented that they'll spill something. It's just that, to make it at all effective, you have to positively know what you're looking for already, because if they tell you that, they'll generally tell you a lot of other things as well. And you'll have to work on your tone, because someone under the influence of any of the 'truth drugs' will most likely tell you what you want to hear. The drugs make people a little more obliging, but mostly they suppress the parts of the brain that have to kick into gear if a person is to assess what's wrong with a question, articulate it, and assert themselves to their questioner. It's easier just to let their imagination go with the flow and tell the questioner exactly what they want to hear.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_serum

  A "truth serum" is a colloquial name for any of a range of psychoactive medications used to obtain information from subjects who are unable or unwilling to provide it otherwise. Any information from the truth serum report is corroborated by further investigation. They have been used in the course of investigating civil and criminal cases, and for the evaluation ofpsychotic patients in the practice of psychiatry.[1] That application was first documented by Dr. William Bleckwenn in 1930,[2] and it still has selected uses today. In the latter context, the controlled administration of intravenous hypnotic medications is called "narcosynthesis" or "narcoanalysis." It may be used to procure diagnostically – or therapeutically – vital information, and to provide patients with a functional respite from catatonia or mania.[3][4]
  ruth serums have been used by the Central Intelligence Agency as seen in the U.S. Army and CIA interrogation manuals declassified by the Pentagon in 1996.[citation needed] In 1963, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that confessions produced as a result of ingestion of truth serum were "unconstitutionally coerced" and therefore inadmissible.[22] The viability of forensic evidence produced from "truth sera" has been addressed in lower courts – judges and expert witnesses have generally agreed that they are not reliable for lie detection.[23]

  "Early in [the 20th] century physicians began to employ scopolamine, along with morphine and chloroform, to induce a state of "twilight sleep" during childbirth. A constituent of henbane, scopolamine was known to produce sedation and drowsiness, confusion and disorientation, incoordination, and amnesia for events experienced during intoxication. Yet physicians noted that women in twilight sleep answered questions accurately and often volunteered exceedingly candid remarks. In 1922 it occurred to Robert House, a Dallas, Texas, obstetrician, that a similar technique might be employed in the interrogation of suspected criminals, and he arranged to interview under scopolamine two prisoners in the Dallas county jail whose guilt seemed clearly confirmed. Under the drug, both men denied the charges on which they were held; and both, upon trial, were found not guilty."[24]

  "The salient points that emerge from this discussion are the following. No such magic brew as the popular notion of truth serum exists. The barbiturates, by disrupting defensive patterns, may sometimes be helpful in interrogation, but even under the best conditions they will elicit an output contaminated by deception, fantasy, garbled speech, etc. A major vulnerability they produce in the subject is a tendency to believe he has revealed more than he has. It is possible, however, for both normal individuals and psychopaths to resist drug interrogation; it seems likely that any individual who can withstand ordinary intensive interrogation can hold out in narcosis. The best aid to a defense against narco-interrogation is foreknowledge of the process and its limitations. There is an acute need for controlled experimental studies of drug reaction, not only to depressants but also to stimulants and to combinations of depressants, stimulants, and ataraxics."[24]
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  No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real

  by cognitivedizzy in

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  guys .

  a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.

  i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Charlie Russell went a step further - as I recall, he was quoted as saying something like this:
  That day seems to be close!

  "When the money runs out we'll know its time to stop the work!!!"

  Well I think Chucky Russell understood economic way better than this batch of Corporate CEOs called the Governing Body. Chucky would have eventually phased out the prophet of god business and slowly reinvested his earnings into other ways to make money and keep the tax man away from his profit$$$s. But sadly the stress of it all killed him and a bunch of hacks took over who eventually degenerated to what we have today some shriveled up brained, brain dead Governing Body living in a dream world unable to cope with reality making stupid business decissions up the ass like crazy madmen.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Elders try to talk to the Governing Body about Ray Franz

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  the governing body in denial:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwigzn6oomc.

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  Thanks for the info. Any more would be nice if anyone who knows more to please chime in.

  Jehovah's Witnesses Elders try to talk to the Governing Body about Ray Franz

  Christian Sparlock
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  Published on Jan 25, 2014
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  John May (Derek's brother) and Martin Merriman were elders in Jehovah's Witnesses in Ireland. When they heard of the expulsion of Raymond Franz, high-level member of their elite Governing Body, in 1979, they flew out to ask the Governing Body, "Why?" Governing Body member Lyman Swingle sarcastically snubs them
  
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  CO in midwest gets pink-slipped

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  i saw the coordinator heading for the stage and hit record on my ipad.

  i was shocked but here it is.

  here's my typed transcript of the letter he read:.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  I expect the publication will reflect this mass lay off of writers in the quality of its publication getting more and more insane to a raunchy degree as only cheap labor and scraping the bottom of the barrel can produce.
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  Bethels all downsizing within a year?

  by Formerbrother in

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  why is there a huge cull going on of all bethels around the world?.

  about 80% cull within the next year?.

  some have been in bethel for decades and will be sent packing, the 20% of bethelites who stay will have to do their own food, laundry and clean their flat.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Russell was a great fiction writer just like Ron Hubbard and they both believe in expelling demons. Their corporations were both founded on human guliblity and a desire to serve a noble cause for some greater power.
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  Now you don't even have to go to the Kingdom Hall - ALL meetings to be recorded & available on jw.org (if you have a password)

  by sir82 in

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  latest boe letter:.

  october 22, 2015. to all bodies of eldersre: use of jw stream.

  dear brothers:we are writing to inform you that arrangements are being made for video recordings ofcongregation meetings, circuit assemblies, and conventions to be uploaded to jw stream (accessibleat http://stream.jw.org) in various languages.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  A revolt will build among the faithful to resist the Governing Body's sanctioned selling of their Kingdom Halls and many legal battles will be lost over this holding up sales and tying up their hands to sell it legally further compounding their liquid money wows. The Watchtower will use strong arm judicial action against offending elders which will back fire with even more legal wows as they get to a court of laws and get exposed for such evil tactics.
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  No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.

  there was beer and later some music.

  everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  It is good to imagine what people in a relaxed mood among friends might say to this topic if brought up and I do feel it is a kindness to get them to be thinking in this direction now that things have esculated financially in the negative direct for the corporation.
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  Bethels all downsizing within a year?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why is there a huge cull going on of all bethels around the world?.

  about 80% cull within the next year?.

  some have been in bethel for decades and will be sent packing, the 20% of bethelites who stay will have to do their own food, laundry and clean their flat.

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  They are under some type of legal injunction to halt all projects so that they sue the pants off this cruel corporation built on lies and false enslaving hopes and have access to all assets and make them more liquidateble and to stop the foolish worthless projects before they eat up more liquid assets . Is my guess?